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Lawmakers take on sexual harassment in public hearing

Eliyanna Kaiser, a member of the Sexual Harassment Working Group, speaks Wednesday before the Senate and Assembly held hearings on improving the state's anti-sexual harassment policies.
Eliyanna Kaiser, a member of the Sexual Harassment Working Group, speaks Wednesday before the Senate and Assembly held hearings on improving the state's anti-sexual harassment policies.

WXXI's Karen DeWitt reports that long-awaited hearings on sexual harassment hearings in state government took place Wednesday in Albany.

Eliyanna Kaiser, a member of the Sexual Harassment Working Group, speaks Wednesday before the Senate and Assembly held hearings on improving the state's anti-sexual harassment policies.
Eliyanna Kaiser, a member of the Sexual Harassment Working Group, speaks Wednesday before the Senate and Assembly held hearings on improving the state's anti-sexual harassment policies.

During the first hearing on sexual harassment in New York’s government in 27 years, state lawmakers closely scrutinized Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s policies on the issue, as victims told harrowing stories about their experiences.

Survivors of sexual harassment by senators and Assembly members spoke before the hearing, saying they’re relieved there is finally a public forum to talk about improving the state’s anti-sexual harassment laws.

Eliyanna Kaiser is a member of the Sexual Harassment Working Group, formed last year by several women who have experienced or reported being victims of sexual harassment by state lawmakers.

“Two-hundred-and-sixty-five days after we began pushing for hearings, we’re getting them,” Kaiser said.

They are the first hearings in New York state on the matter since 1992.

Kaiser worked for former Assemblymember Micah Kellner, who was admonished twice by the Assembly Speaker for sexual harassment and stripped of his committee post. He did not seek re-election in 2014. She and the others criticized the process by which the state’s current sexual harassment prevention laws were drafted, in private, by the governor and three male legislative leaders, one of whom was himself accused of sexual harassment.

“Four men in a room hung a ‘Mission Accomplished’ sign last year on legislation that was rammed through the budget process,” Kaiser said, “without meaningfully consulting with key experts and also with those of us who have experienced harassment.”

Former Senate Independent Democratic Conference Leader Jeff Klein is accused of forcibly kissing one of the women in the working group, a charge Klein denies.

Klein lost his Senate seat in a primary, and the woman who replaced him, Sen. Alessandra Biaggi, co-chaired the hearing. She said the issue of sexual harassment in the workplace has been kept in the dark for too long.

“This will be a place to speak the truth,” Biaggi said.

Sen. Alessandra Biaggi speaks before a hearing she chaired on anti-sexual harassment policies.
Sen. Alessandra Biaggi speaks before a hearing she chaired on anti-sexual harassment policies.

Survivors testified of repeated harassment, including Chloe Rivera and Leah Hebert, who worked for former Assemblyman Vito Lopez. Both feared to speak up against the then-powerful legislator. Hebert said she was traumatized by the experience.

“I was a shell of my former self, both physically and emotionally,” Hebert said, of her state of mind at the time of the harrassment. “I was severely traumatized and suffered from regular panic attacks and suicidal thoughts.”

Heber said despite repeated conversations with then-Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver’s office and recorded evidence, the Assembly did not investigate their claims.

Hebert eventually signed a non-disclosure agreement, where she would be punished with a $20,000 fine if she ever said anything negative about her former boss.

Lopez was later censured and no longer permitted to have interns in his office. He died in 2015.

Silver is facing a prison term on unrelated corruption charges.  

Stunned lawmakers, including Sen. John Liu, assured the women that they were heard.

“Your testimony was courageous and it was compelling,” Liu said, his voice shaking with anger. “It will be consequential.”

Roberta Reardon, Cuomo’s labor commissioner, testified on the new regulations written by her agency after the agreement between Cuomo and the legislative leaders. She said they are a “game changer” because they require every employer in New York state to have a policy to prevent sexual harassment in their workplace, and every employee must be given that policy and receive yearly interactive training. 

“We launched an extensive public review,” said Reardon, who called it a “model policy.”

But questioning from senators and Assembly members revealed significant holes in those policies.

Sen. Andrew Gounardes asked Reardon how the agency had sought public comment. No hearings were held.

“What was the public comment period on that public input process?” Gounardes asked.

“The length of it?” Reardon asked.

“Yes,” Gounardes said.

“I don’t know actually know the length of it,” Reardon said.

It was 14 days, Gounardes told her, “during the doldrums of summer” in late August.

“I don’t think that’s enough,” Gounardes told her.

State Department of Labor Commissioner Roberta Reardon testifies at the hearing Wednesday.
State Department of Labor Commissioner Roberta Reardon testifies at the hearing Wednesday.

Reardon also told lawmakers that while the Department of Labor devised the rules, the agency does not have the power to make sure that the regulations are carried out. Legislators said that is something that needs to be corrected.

Reardon told the lawmakers that if they devise new laws to strengthen enforcement or make other changes, her agency would be happy to carry them out.

Among changes lawmakers are considering are extending the statute of limitations to file a sexual harassment complaint from one year to three years, and amending the definition of what constitutes harassment so that victims do not have to wait until they are subject to pervasive harassment before they can file a complaint. They’d also like to fix a loophole to make the Assembly and Senate fully accountable when one of their members sexually harasses an employee.

Cuomo, speaking to reporters at an unrelated event Wednesday, said he continues to believe that the rules he created are the "most aggressive anti-sexual harassment laws in the nation."

But he said, "Anything else we can do on sexual harassment, we will do. I’m very eager to sign legislation that furthers that cause.”

Copyright 2019 WXXI News

Karen DeWitt is Capitol Bureau Chief for New York State Public Radio, a network of 10 public radio stations in New York State. She has covered state government and politics for the network since 1990.